Attempt at a Rant
This is going to be an actual rant. I don't think I've ever really ranted before on this site, but that's what I'm about to attempt.
I was going through the General Section on SikhSangat.com, when I came across a topic on the looming elections in the UK. Even when I was about to vote in their poll (in order to see the results), I was conflicted on whether to vote for Labour or for the UK Conservatives. Few North American conservatives realize that most 'conservatives' outside our continent aren't conservative in the same tradition as Republicans or (most) Canadian Conservatives. So the choice was between a pro-war, hawkish Liberal in Tony Blair and a more moderate liberal who's less charismatic and less pro-war in the Conservative leader (I always forget his name). If I were British, I wouldn't really know who to support.
Anyways, someone made a post in that thread with this reason to re-evaluate the Sikh community's traditional support for the Labour Party.
2) The failure to introduce positive discrimation. Sikhs vastly under represented in the Public Sector (NHS, Police, Armed Forces) Directorships, Media, Sports, Politics. etc.
I was expecting reasons that involved problems associated with EXCESSIVE government intervention in society and I found someone talking about "positive discrimination" alongside a myriad of other whiny socialist cries.
One of my deepest philosophical reasons for being ideologically conservative is because of my strongly held belief that I shouldn't be treated as or viewed as a victim in relation to the state. How could someone be strongly victimized enough in order to demand "positive discrimination"? Incase I have any UK Sikhs reading this post, this is a humble request: STOP TREATING YOURSELF LIKE VICTIMS. The state has no obligation or duty to go out of their way to ignore your qualifications and hire you on the basis of your race or ethnicity. Your parents or your parents' parents didn't come to England as a favour to the English people; they came for a better life. The same thing goes for immigrants to Canada, America, or anywhere else. Your parents came as human beings, not as Sikhs, Hindus or Indians - so they could contribute to English society by working hard and earning a decent living. They didn't come over so the state could go and do them unneccesary favours. If anything, they're indebted to society and NOT the other way around. You didn't come to England in order to screw around someone who happened to be born 'white'. Do you understand that? Do you understand the very basic idea of fairness?
Immigration departments don't grant immigration in order for their societies to be abused and divided by whiny immigrants who demand things that they have no entitlement to. I could almost understand the rationale behind 'positive discrimination' in relation to African Americans (with slave ancestry), because American society abused their ancestors on their way towards building a prosperous society. Blacks were systematically discriminated against for centuries after they were FORCEFULLY brought to America to be slaves. Are you the same as them? Were your ancestors enslaved for two and a half centuries? Were they later systematically separated from white society? No, they were not. You have no entitlement to "positive discrimination" or whatever else you want to call it.
Stop acting like such pathetic victims. Sikhs will go nowhere in England as long as they keep viewing themselves as "Sikhs" or "Indians" or "Punjabis" in relation to the state. There's no such thing as a group when it comes to the state - all are individuals. Learn to treat yourself like a responsible individual and maybe you'll get that government job fairly. As long as there's always that justification for failure, as long as there's always that added unfair incentive to slack off in school or anywhere else, any gains that Sikhs will make, will be fundamentally unjust.
I just realized that if I changed around some words in the above paragraphs and if I were white, I'd be deemed a racist, or something akin to a racist - but my post has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with fairness - it has everything to do with the 'soft bigotry of low expectations' that almost every immigrant group is put through. No one should be entitled to 'positive discrimination'. Everyone should be treated fairly. Why don't some people get that?
I was going through the General Section on SikhSangat.com, when I came across a topic on the looming elections in the UK. Even when I was about to vote in their poll (in order to see the results), I was conflicted on whether to vote for Labour or for the UK Conservatives. Few North American conservatives realize that most 'conservatives' outside our continent aren't conservative in the same tradition as Republicans or (most) Canadian Conservatives. So the choice was between a pro-war, hawkish Liberal in Tony Blair and a more moderate liberal who's less charismatic and less pro-war in the Conservative leader (I always forget his name). If I were British, I wouldn't really know who to support.
Anyways, someone made a post in that thread with this reason to re-evaluate the Sikh community's traditional support for the Labour Party.
2) The failure to introduce positive discrimation. Sikhs vastly under represented in the Public Sector (NHS, Police, Armed Forces) Directorships, Media, Sports, Politics. etc.
I was expecting reasons that involved problems associated with EXCESSIVE government intervention in society and I found someone talking about "positive discrimination" alongside a myriad of other whiny socialist cries.
One of my deepest philosophical reasons for being ideologically conservative is because of my strongly held belief that I shouldn't be treated as or viewed as a victim in relation to the state. How could someone be strongly victimized enough in order to demand "positive discrimination"? Incase I have any UK Sikhs reading this post, this is a humble request: STOP TREATING YOURSELF LIKE VICTIMS. The state has no obligation or duty to go out of their way to ignore your qualifications and hire you on the basis of your race or ethnicity. Your parents or your parents' parents didn't come to England as a favour to the English people; they came for a better life. The same thing goes for immigrants to Canada, America, or anywhere else. Your parents came as human beings, not as Sikhs, Hindus or Indians - so they could contribute to English society by working hard and earning a decent living. They didn't come over so the state could go and do them unneccesary favours. If anything, they're indebted to society and NOT the other way around. You didn't come to England in order to screw around someone who happened to be born 'white'. Do you understand that? Do you understand the very basic idea of fairness?
Immigration departments don't grant immigration in order for their societies to be abused and divided by whiny immigrants who demand things that they have no entitlement to. I could almost understand the rationale behind 'positive discrimination' in relation to African Americans (with slave ancestry), because American society abused their ancestors on their way towards building a prosperous society. Blacks were systematically discriminated against for centuries after they were FORCEFULLY brought to America to be slaves. Are you the same as them? Were your ancestors enslaved for two and a half centuries? Were they later systematically separated from white society? No, they were not. You have no entitlement to "positive discrimination" or whatever else you want to call it.
Stop acting like such pathetic victims. Sikhs will go nowhere in England as long as they keep viewing themselves as "Sikhs" or "Indians" or "Punjabis" in relation to the state. There's no such thing as a group when it comes to the state - all are individuals. Learn to treat yourself like a responsible individual and maybe you'll get that government job fairly. As long as there's always that justification for failure, as long as there's always that added unfair incentive to slack off in school or anywhere else, any gains that Sikhs will make, will be fundamentally unjust.
I just realized that if I changed around some words in the above paragraphs and if I were white, I'd be deemed a racist, or something akin to a racist - but my post has nothing to do with racism. It has everything to do with fairness - it has everything to do with the 'soft bigotry of low expectations' that almost every immigrant group is put through. No one should be entitled to 'positive discrimination'. Everyone should be treated fairly. Why don't some people get that?
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